Do you give your images away ?

NoeEttica · **Posted:** Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:48 pm

Do you give your images away ?

If you were on a trip and invested a LOT of time and money in elaborate camera gear (I worked in the trade in the past ) would you just let someone in your group copy your memory card ?

islandspeed2001 · **Posted:** Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:53 pm

Would you let someone use your live shrimp that you just caught a big redfish on?

NoeEttica · **Posted:** Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:11 pm

sure I got a Redfish ... let them have a shot at one ...

islandspeed2001 wrote:

Would you let someone use your live shrimp that you just caught a big redfish on?

Canon · **Joined:** Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:04 pm **Posts:** 129

I use my images for contests and I try to sell them. I don't let anyone have a digital copy. Especially people I don't know. But, they can buy a print if they want it. I just wouldn't want someone out there using the same image as me. I saw two photographers that went on a photo shoot together and at the next art show, they were both selling the same images. Don't give away your images.
You can go to smugmug.com and set up an account so people can buy them. I will sell my sports images like surfing. I also will sell them the full res digital image for a $50-$100.

KayakMike · **Posted:** Wed May 09, 2012 4:05 pm

No I do not. I also do not give away my copyrighted works such a web pages and software I have created either

It's a thing called Intellectual 'Property'
Of course many folks do not think taking other people's IP is unlawful...

Dreads0518 · **Posted:** Wed May 09, 2012 4:35 pm

Would someone like to purchase my images?
Or is there somewhere they can be displayed for purchase?
So far, none of mine have been discovered....... :scratch:

NoeEttica · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2012 6:24 pm

You sir have an amazing image !

I will pay you cash for a full size digital copy ! :smoke:

I wrote you about this but it must have gotten lost ..

I'll look for my small copy and post it here ...

Dreads0518 wrote:

Would someone like to purchase my images?
Or is there somewhere they can be displayed for purchase?
So far, none of mine have been discovered....... :scratch:

This one ...

Dreads0518 · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2012 11:41 pm

Thanks!! But that ones not mine if I remember correctly........ :scratch:

But I think it does belong to someone on this forum.
I snatched it........... :smoke:

But It did give me inspiration to take pics of clouds........

lgbt yaker · **Joined:** Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:50 pm **Posts:** 3

I am neither an attorney nor a good photographer, but I think there may be some questionable interpretation here about how one protects his or her intellectual property. I think once you place a photo in a public forum, whether here or Facebook or another public site, then you have pretty much given up any copyright on the image .. and even if you think you still own in, if 10,000 people grab it and use it, you will never be able to keep up with any 'cease and desist' requests. The best method of maintaining 'ownership' is to first not post it in a public place and second to identify specific legal and copyright issues if you do post it.

islandspeed2001 · **Posted:** Thu May 17, 2012 9:13 am

Were you aware of the photo release required for the Classic? One year I found my photo on one of the sponsors webpages :salute:

15. PHOTO RELEASE. Scoring photos remain the sole ownership of JaxKayakFishing LLC to be used at their discretion. Contestants grant JaxKayakFishing LLC and the sponsors the unconditional right to use their name, voice, photographic likeness and biographical information in connection with JaxKayakFishing LLC tournaments, production, promotion, and/or articles and press releases, and shall not be entitled to receive any royalties or other compensation in connection with such use.

NoeEttica · **Posted:** Fri May 18, 2012 8:52 am

Great input Thanks !

That is why I don't like giving stuff to "Friends" I give a bunch away and that's fine ...

but give it to friends and they will publish it AND take credit for it ...

but I like to choose :smoke:

KayakMike · **Posted:** Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:42 am

That is correct Jerry - also you will note that all imagery and content at JKF is also protected under JKF copyright. It's called Intellectual Property or IP.

My day job is working on patent and copyright litigation in technology cases and this is intentional at both JKF and at the Classic.

Is it too much to ask that we make available pics from our event to sponsors as payback for their donations?

Is it too much to ask that other websites not copy our content and/or software we have developed for our own usage?

The internet can be a great place for sharing your information - and links are there so you can put a reference to someone else's IP on your web pages without stealing it. However, taking a copy of their IP for your web pages so as to feature your page and/or prevent the viewer from proceeding to the owner's page to view the content is theft, and is antithetical to the concept that the person with that content is entitled to the traffic to view it. Also just because something is copyright protected does not mean the owner would not be willing to enter into a license agreement to enable someone who wanted to pay for the privilage to use their IP

Just my 3 cents (inflation adjusted 2 cents worth).

islandspeed2001 · **Posted:** Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:51 am

OK..... let's see if I've got this correct.

If I post a picture of myself mooning someone on a website, I can then say that they would own my :bootyshake:

Kudzu · **Joined:** Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:43 pm **Posts:** 415

lgbt yaker wrote:

I am neither an attorney nor a good photographer, but I think there may be some questionable interpretation here about how one protects his or her intellectual property. I think once you place a photo in a public forum, whether here or Facebook or another public site, then you have pretty much given up any copyright on the image .. and even if you think you still own in, if 10,000 people grab it and use it, you will never be able to keep up with any 'cease and desist' requests. The best method of maintaining 'ownership' is to first not post it in a public place and second to identify specific legal and copyright issues if you do post it.

You don't relinquish your copyright by posting to a public site. As the creator of the original representation you own it until you sign away your rights as in the case of the contest agreement.

The only time you wouldn't own the copyright is if it was a work for hire. Even then I always retain copyright and my client receives usage rights. Posting copyright notices won't stop people from stealing your images. I would recommend adding copyright information to the IPTC meta data, though . I used that method twice to prove ownership when my work was stolen.

If you guys are worried about your fishing buddies selling your images maybe you need new buddies. If you're worried about the general public then do it right and register your images through the Library of Congress. That's the only surefire way to maximize potential litigation rewards and you get a certificate you can show off. ;-)

As for the photographers selling the same image were they identical or just very similar? If they were shooting together it's plausible that thy captured the same scene while standing beside each other.

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crusher · **Posted:** Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:54 pm

We are posting low resolution digital images of fish, if someone wants wants my low res pics, have at it. I hold a degree in fine art photography with a minor in graphic design, most of my finest work is still done in b&w or chrome film. I am old school and dare anyone to match what I produce with cellulose film. If you would like to purchase the high res version, my work is for sale, but not cheap and certainly not free, C.

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