Hey did anybody fish next to the jaxbeachpier on kayak If yes how was it

Hey KingMac.....Actually, KayakMike and UF Angler and I fished directly UNDER the new pier...back in 2004 when it was being built and did not even have flooring on it yet, and we caught some angelfish and stuff....and talked about and dreamed up this website....which of course KayakMike developed and made it happen and made it such a success...He did the work!!

That said, guys on the pier with 10' surf rods and magged reels can cast an EASY 200-300 feet....EASY....and actually the good ones can double that, and if you do not wanna get chunked with a 4 OZ pyramid sinker in the head, body or have a hole punched in your kayak, you had better stay WELL AWAY FROM IT!!!

Bad idea ya got there!!!
JohnYaksJax

Actually, i have a friend that takes his yak and fishes directly under the pier (mostly during early morning hours) and has been killing the big trout and redfish.He just stays in the center underneath the pier and basically just casts around the pilings, almost vertical fishing.Never casting more than just 10-20 feet or so.

The best fishing is around the pilings .....hands down.....structure = FISH.....he has also been catching some nice flounder.All the while not going more than just past halfway out.

Dont forget....this fall when the mullet run starts, it will be absolutely gangbusters for Trout, Redfish, and Flounder all around the pier piliings

Besides being a Yak fisherman, I'm a pier fisherman as well, and I spend a good bit of time on the JBP. Between all the surfers, and the fishermen, the pier is a pretty busy place. If you want to fish the pier, do it FROM the pier, instead of causing more confusion than is already there, by being under it in a 'yak...

It's just unnecessarily asking for trouble.

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Southern Salt Command
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Hobie Revolution
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Im not tryin to start a pissin match but.......i live only a few blocks from the pier, and grew up surfing and fishing the old pier (late70s til present day).....and i have NO issues with people fishing under the pier. FYI...if you are targeting any of the 3 species i posted above...the best place to catch them is straight down....not casting 200 feet out into the surf......only thing that is good for is whiting and pomps...unless you like ctachin catfish and bonnet head sharks.

You kinda remind me of one of the grumpy old pier fisherman that chunk weights at the surfers for no reason.No one owns the pier. It is their for everyone to enjoy.

Good day

I don't think it's a good idea for a few reasons:

1: It's common decency NOT to encroach on anothers spot. The people on that pier have paid to fish that spot, and it's not right to jump in their spot in a boat, or a kayak.

2: It isn't safe to get around all the lines in the water, especially with pissed off fisherman, you're just asking for trouble.

3: If you came a little farther south to Flagler Pier and tried fishing the pier by kayak, you would go to jail as it is illegal to be within 150 feet of the pier. Not only that, but I would take a bet that you would end up with pyramid sinkers through your kayak hull.

Bottom line, if you're wanting to fish the pier, do it FROM the pier.

Just my opinion, it's worth exactly what you paid for it.

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I was banned from JaxKayakFishing for being a jerk and saying ugly things about people I've never met. I'm an uncivil fool who is a know-it-all and like hanging around people like myself. So I am thrilled to have finally been shown the door as I worked hard to find it.

Just DON'T DO IT! Too many other great places around here without all the hassle and possibility of confrontation with others.

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Dave
Red Perception Acadia II
Perception Search 13
Fernandina Beach, FL

You have no right to take personal shots, and get all menstrual with me, when you don't like the answers you get. Sounds like you know everything already, living a few blocks from the pier and all...

You're probably way too advanced to be hanging out here anyway.

So go yak fishin' under the pier...Have a great time, and wear a helmet. Ol' Grumpy might be there.

And you're right...It IS a good day.

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Blackwater Rob...

Southern Salt Command
Bad Tackle 'Ho
Hobie Revolution
OK Scrambler

There may be a difference of opinions but...I don't think there is a pissin match goin on here.

For the record, I am also a Yak fisherman + Pier fisherman, and I'm pretty sure there is a RULE to stay away.
(Mrs Faye can help us understand/explain the rules fully).

I understand the idea sounds about using a vessle(boat/kayak/etc...) to fish at the Pier would be but...Think about it...?

-Where do you draw the line?
-What is your limit for HOW MANY boats are allowed around the pier?
-Do you have a limit for WHAT SIZE vessle is allowed?
(You see where this is going)...Basically there would be NO room for those who PAID to get on the pier!

Can you imagine:
1) Pier fisherman "trying" to keep lines out of boaters' way?
or
2) Boaters "trying" to manuever around fishinglines from the Pier?

Answer:
Fortunately there are already signs/rules that have been posted on the outside rails. They inform us the safe distance to stay away.
(Some surfers, paddle boarders, or boaters may not always obey the rules...or be aware of them...which ends up upsetting some of those who paid the Pier for the priveledge of that area.

I think it was simplified earlier when someone said; If you want to fish the pier, do it FROM the pier.

*The people on the pier have paid for the priviledge to fish it.

Let's all catch some dinner!

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Well sorry that i disagreed with all of yall......but im goin to stick to my guns.

For instance.......i was at the JAX BEACH PIER this morning at 6AM till 9AM and their was not ONE person within the surfline to about 300 ft out towards the end... minimum. Thats rite....not ONE person in that area. This area i speak of is LOADED with FAT TROUT and FAT REDFISH with a few flatties mixed in. I wasnt fishing, i was longboarding.

So to me......if someone wants to put their YAK in under the pier and bounce some baits around the pilings .....(i see a few guys do this alot....early morning only) i personaly see no big deal with it. They are not bothering anyone and the fishing is great.Im not saying to do it on the weekend or on a crowded afternoon, but to dawn patrol it for a few hours when its flat and you will catch some nice fish.

Good Luck

Not to threadjack or cause more argument, but 2 things to consider:

1. The 300' law does NOT apply to the new pier. The city has not approved any such law. The original 300' law was bound to the OLD pier at 6th Ave. South. Unfortunately, the new pier has no law safeguarding it from people in the water coming close to it, not only for their safety, but for the liability of all those on the pier and the possibility of a completely unintentional injury caused by a weight or hook. There are several signs along the pier that state "Caution: Hooks, weights and fishing line" but "technically speaking" it is not illegal to be under the pier, simply foolish, dangerous and ill-advised. If the hooks and weights don't get you, then the massive undertow and swirling currents combined with the increased wave activity SHOULD keep you away, especially in a yak.

2. Example from this past Saturday- I got to the pier at 730ish AM. There were plenty of surfers in the water for the contest going on, but they were all keeping a good distance from the pier. OK, cool! Sometime around 9am, a swarm of yak-boarders and kayaks were in a "race" from south of the pier to a spot somewhere north of it. There were about 7 people, myself included, who had big surf rods out and trolley rigs set up for kingfish, which as most of you know involve 2 or more very sharp treble hooks on wire leaders. There were literally about 30 lines going straight out, the longest being about 100 yards before going underwater. The group of yakkers were trying to take the shortest route around the pier and quite literally came so close, I could read the name and model on the side of several of them. One was bold enough to even come right up against the pilings straight down from "the T". Words were thrown on both sides, along with some hand gestures and name calling. The "safety boat", which was supposed to be where they had to go around made no effort to keep them a safe distance away from the pier, and even threatened to press charges because he accused one gentleman of throwing weights "at every person coming by", which I tell you as a witness, was NOT TRUE. The cops eventually came on the pier and evaluated the situation and eventually everyone calmed down and went on their merry way. OK, so it was a long story...

The point is, we all fish the same areas, and would like the same courtesies extended to each other. If you are daring enough to brave the waves under the pier where there isn'y anyone fishing at all, that's your business, and possibly your funeral. However, if you want to fish farther out for the blues, whiting, kings, cobia, tarpon (saw 3 hooked Saturday ) cuda's and sharks, then just pay the 4 bucks and go on the pier. It's a lot of fun, there are some great guys and girls on there, and you get fish stories for free.

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Heritage Kayaks Redfish 14 (Baby Puke Green)

It has all been said but I want to reiterate that fishing under the pier is NOT a good idea! Regardless of what one person says, you are better off fishing from the pier. The area under the pier can be very dangerous when a set comes in that your not expecting or like RR said, the sinker that you don't see. If you are under the pier you can't see the person that flings a 4oz sinker fishing the spot they paid to fish in. You will not be received well by the fisherman on the pier and you will just be asking for trouble and injury whether intentional or not. The 300' rule is not law and the only reason it is not law is because a surfer has decided that it should not be made into law. Anyone who says that it should not be made into law has a total disregard for the safety of the surfers. This is a city lawsuit waiting to happen. How much do you think a lawsuit against the city will be worth for a surfer who is hit in the head and is now a vegetable. The city of Jax Beach is setting themselves up for a major problem by sitting on their hands on this issue.

People learn to fish on piers, which means they learn to cast on piers. While there may be some very seasoned anglers on the pier, there are many people out there to try their luck.

Trust me it is better that you don't fish under the pier. This is not some undiscovered honey hole, it is a disaster waiting to happen.

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Happened on Sunday! Enough said:

Jacksonville Beach Shark Bite Victim, a UNF Baseball Player, Describes AttackJACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- Looking back on it now from his hospital room, Clayton Schulz remembers the whole thing lasting just seconds. "I yelled, 'Hey man I just got bit, I just got bit. Can you help me out; I just got bit by a shark,'" said Schulz. But in those brief few moments, he said,the shark that had latched onto his foot had left its mark. "He kind of just shook his head a little bit, gave a nice shake, one or two shakes...I turned back around and looked at my foot and it was hanging pretty good," said Schulz. Schulz is an avid surfer and the attack happened while he was in the water near the Sixth Avenue Pier.

He said he tried to stay calm. But when he came out of the water, his girlfriend on the beach was one of the first to see what his foot looked like. "Not a foot to be honest, I didn't even really want to look at it that much because I don't have a strong stomach. But it looked pretty bad when I first saw it," said Megan Hudack. Marine biologists said shark attacks around Jacksonville are rare but tend to happen more in summer just because there are more swimmers in the water.

Schulz received 400 stitches in his foot. He is also a pitcher on the UNF baseball team, but he says this won't slow him down. He expects to be back on the mound at the start of the season. But will he surf again? "I'm sure I'll be back out there. My neck might be turning a little bit, looking around and stuff, but I'm sure I'll be back out there as soon as I can," said Schulz.




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Dave
Red Perception Acadia II
Perception Search 13
Fernandina Beach, FL

Just a FYI......it happened between the beach acesses of 6th and 7th avenue south where the old peir used to be (6th AVE south). It was also on Friday afternoon at around 4:30 PM.He was in 4ft or less of water. He was walking out into the surf.

The new PIER is on 5th AVE north.Thats 10 blocks to the north. Their are also many sharks up and down are beaches this time of year. Mostly small blacktips and sand sharks, and an occasional bullshark.
You are more likely to get struck by lightening than to get bit by a shark.

Also, i wouldnt go under thpir in anything less than 1ft conditions. Thats equal to about 80% of the days in June and July.