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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 11:43 am 
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> *JOE LEGAL vs. **JOSE ILLEGAL
>*
> You have two families: "Joe Legal" and "Jose Illegal".
> Both families have two parents, two children, and live in California.
>*
> Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.
>*
> Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".
>*
> Ready? Now pay attention...
>*
> Joe Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00
> per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal taxes; Joe Legal now
> has $31,231.00.
>*
> Jose Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200.00
> per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes. Jose Illegal now has
> $31,200.00.
>*
> Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for
> his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now has
> $24,031.00.
>*
> Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.
>*
> Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or
> welfare. Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per
> year. Joe Legal now has $18,031.00.
>*
> Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps and
> welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.
>*
> Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. Joe
> Legal now has $9,631.00.
>*
> Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month federal rent subsidy. Jose Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $ 31,200.00.
>*
> Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for insurance. Joe Legal
> now has $7,231.00.
>*
> Jose Illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has $31,200.00.
>*
> Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline,
> etc.
>*
> Jose Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month.
>*
> Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after
> work.
>*
> Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.
>*
> Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school.
> Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches whileJose Illegal's children
> get a government sponsored lunch. Jose Illegal's children have an
> after school ESL program. Joe Legal's children go home.
>*
> Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire
> services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.
>*
> Do you get it, now?
>*
> If you vote for or support any politician that supports illegal aliens...
> You are part of the problem!
>*
> It's way PAST time to take a stand for America and Americans!
>*
> What are you waiting for? Pass it on.


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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 5:07 pm 
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As a hispanic and a legal one at that(puerto ricans are born U.S. citizens), I work and pay taxes and agree with your post. However, the problem i had with your comment is "jose" illegal. Its not just hispanics who are illegal. Its whites, blacks, Obama's aunt, asians, arabs. So if you would have have said Joe legal and Joe illegal great. The fact that your post seems racially motivated is what gets me to be quite honest a little aggravated. I firmly support the Arizona immigration law because of the problem its causing as well as costing the state tax payers 2.7 billion per year. However, illegal mexicans may be the problem in Arizona but they're not the only ones causing the problems with illegal immigration in the Unite States. So as I do support your views on this issue, please refrain from appearing racially driven.

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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 6:41 pm 
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Mundo1116 wrote:
As a hispanic and a legal one at that(puerto ricans are born U.S. citizens), I work and pay taxes and agree with your post. However, the problem i had with your comment is "jose" illegal. Its not just hispanics who are illegal. Its whites, blacks, Obama's aunt, asians, arabs. So if you would have have said Joe legal and Joe illegal great. The fact that your post seems racially motivated is what gets me to be quite honest a little aggravated. I firmly support the Arizona immigration law because of the problem its causing as well as costing the state tax payers 2.7 billion per year. However, illegal mexicans may be the problem in Arizona but they're not the only ones causing the problems with illegal immigration in the Unite States. So as I do support your views on this issue, please refrain from appearing racially driven.



sorry it appears this way but thats not my intentions at all. my stepfather is puerto rican and my little brother and sister are half. my wife is also puerto rican and my son who will be born in a few days is half as well. nothing racial here, I just copy and pasted from another site. anyways, glad you agree with the point of the post.


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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:13 pm 
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I appreciate that and I'm glad you and i share the same views. Congratulations on your baby boy. Hope all goes well!

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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:33 pm 
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just to stir the mud, Hispanic is not a race, it is an ethnicity. So, Jose, could be multiracial and still be Hispanic. America needs to get over the racist thing, you are Americans, period. They (Jose, Vladimir, Shakina, Mohamed,and other illegals), regardless of race or ethnicity are not.


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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 2:30 pm 
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GAHHHHH!!!!! do NOT want to get me started on this! :-( Just think about Joe's children who might not have the free food and the extra benefits and help along the way. And then think about Joes children who try to go to college and dont recieve much support or scholarships and Joe struggles and take out another loan and refinances his house. While Jose (or w/e name) Illegal's children get scholarships, grants and eveything under the sun for being a minority. Yes there is an issue of a SS number but one can be obtained, and there u have it. The cycle continues and now Jose's chilren are making even more than Joe maybe 2x's a much and they were illegals... *sigh* im going to leave now before my insides turn to pure hot lava...


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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 2:30 pm 
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btw GRATZ on the addition to the family!


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