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 Post subject: Saint Augustine 2-20-10
PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:13 pm 
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I fished a spot in Saint Augustine today from 10-6. It was a long tough day for me. Trolled about 10 miles. Only at the end of the day did I get any fish. Picked up a lower slot Red about 19" and one smaller red about 14". Took a pic of the keeper. It sure was a pretty day though. Nice to get back out again. Both Reds were caught on a 4" gulp swimming mullet (white in color).

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:23 pm 
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Hey at least you got one.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:08 pm 
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Where you fishing Guana lakeside?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:14 pm 
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riverboatman wrote:
Where you fishing Guana lakeside?


Yep. Were you out there?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:25 pm 
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Not today but I fish there all the time. I could tell by the water and tree line. Waiting for a little warn weather to go again. If ya see a mango Pro Anglar it is me.
Some good size fish in there. Caught 3rd place trout in the tourney last year and lost a bigger one at the boat that was easy
over 30 in. Good luck

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:57 pm 
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riverboatman wrote:
Not today but I fish there all the time. I could tell by the water and tree line. Waiting for a little warn weather to go again. If ya see a mango Pro Anglar it is me.
Some good size fish in there. Caught 3rd place trout in the tourney last year and lost a bigger one at the boat that was easy
over 30 in. Good luck


Let me know if ya want to go together some time. I am also looking to try some other places. I am really wanting some black drum. I have eaten my share of trout and reds this fall and winter but I have not caught any black drum. I love em. :tongue:

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:35 am 
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Man sounds like a tough day out there. All that trolling would kill me. How fast were you trolling? With those pedals in my experience (offshore) it is hard not to troll to fast, especially this time of year with the cold water temps. Just a guess, who knows? Looks like you picked up a nice one either way.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:33 pm 
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Man sounds like a tough day out there. All that trolling would kill me. How fast were you trolling? With those pedals in my experience (offshore) it is hard not to troll to fast, especially this time of year with the cold water temps. Just a guess, who knows? Looks like you picked up a nice one either way.


Offshore you are dealing with a strong tide or current. Guana lake is an easier peddle/paddle than out there. On windy days it is a little tougher but not like out offshore. No tide in the Lake side of Guana.
I try to troll about 1.3 to about 1.6.mph for reds and trout and have been really successful at it. More of the slower speeds with the colder water.
I brought some real nice live shrimp with me and stopped at several spots and had one on bottom and one on a Cajun thunder rig. I also cast my arti's while soaking bait.
I have a gps/fishfinder and find it very useful marking a waypoint on each spot I pick up a fish. I also use it to mark little bits of structure/oysters/dropoffs.
Like others have said on this forum, It really does not mark too many fish as the lake is very shallow but does show areas where they may be prowling.
You would be supprised at how many times I pick up another fish in the same general area of my last trips waypoints. I edit each waypoint with information pertaining to it like ::22"red/feb/15/10-7:30am/gulp/swim-mullet/char or oysterclumps/green crabtrapline, etc.... I even use some landmarks to to tie in to waypoints like 3 palms clumped together at a certain point. Stuff like that.
On the windier days I can drift back downwind at trolling speeds with just minor corrections with the rudder. On Saturday, there was not a lot of wind so I peddled most of the day unless at anchor/stakeout pole.

Saturday was a slow fish day. I usually don't catch 20 fish out at Guana lake on a given trip. But the 5 or 6 I usually catch a trip are mostly quality fish. I have caught 2 of the 30" Gator trout that Riverboatman was talking about. I have found out from this forum and others that if you even post a pic of you holding one of the big spawners the wrong way, you will get endless posts bashing you for mistreatment of the fish. I usually just get them back in the water as quick as I can. I realize that these big female trout are the future of the trout fishery and want my son to be able to catch some too.

These are just some things I like to do out there.
The trolling tips I got from members on this forum like RLend and others. They even told me what lures to try. I just added them to the arsenal I was already throwing and Most are productive on any given day.
There are so many others here that know much more about this area than I. I have only been here 2.5 years but came from the South Texas gulf coast and a lot of the same techniques from there work here. :D
I have a couple of Pics of Gator trout on my cell phone and was going to post them but my RAZR phone said file too big to email???? I will have to research that.
I hope some of the info I listed may help someone as those that have helped me before. Pay it forward I say.
PS. Sure would like some locations to try for Black Drum? Not necessarily GL but anywhere??
Later, Mark

PS: I am not sure is oysters grow in Guana Lake. I have always heard they need tide and higher salinity to survive. I think they are filter feeders and use the tides to catch their food? On several occasions while trolling I have brought up a half an oyster shell. I am thinking some people have dumped piles here and there to make their own structure. Does anyone know??

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:27 pm 
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Nice red you got there and I am glad the trolling and lure tips usually work for you. One other thing I have learned about Guana Lake is that it can be real hit or miss too, especially when the water is still cold. You should be able to find some black drum this time of year on the river side of Guana using shrimp on the bottom. Good luck!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:10 pm 
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RLend wrote:
Nice red you got there and I am glad the trolling and lure tips usually work for you. One other thing I have learned about Guana Lake is that it can be real hit or miss too, especially when the water is still cold. You should be able to find some black drum this time of year on the river side of Guana using shrimp on the bottom. Good luck!


Thanks Bud,
I know they are getting them at the dam. The river side is next for me. I just got to time those tides right. I have watched guys get stuck out there trying to get back in at a negative tide.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:24 pm 
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Good stuff, as long as you get one keeper its a good day in my book.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:30 pm 
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Need to watch that tide on the river side big time. The fire and rescue have been there in the past pulling people who left the yak and sank to their stomachs.
I've had it to my knees and that was enough. Not sure who was dirtier me or my yak.

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riverboatman wrote:
Need to watch that tide on the river side big time. The fire and rescue have been there in the past pulling people who left the yak and sank to their stomachs.
I've had it to my knees and that was enough. Not sure who was dirtier me or my yak.


Roger that! I was involved in a Ghenoe flipping incident on the lake side right when I moved here. That mud is brutal and STINKY.
Here is my report from that trip from another forum. Don't laugh too hard. :(

http://archives.floridasportsman.com/co ... ordial-mud

I guess I have derailed my own thread enough.

Later, Mark

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Hey Afishy1: Regarding the tides on the River Side of Guana:

G4VPM/Andy who is now back in England gave me a "formula" he always used down there for the Tides: "Mayport PLUS 1 Hour" and I have it taped on my wall here above my PC!!
Since Sept. 22, 2006 it has not failed me in over 30 trips!!

So, just look up the Mayport Tides and add one hour to them!!
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Now that is one funny worst case scenario kind of fishing story. You know you are hooked on this sport when you can come through that and keep going at it. I am surprised your fishing host did not run from you into the parking lot once you hit the shore.......Great story!

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